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Collie's hit scared colleagues

Posted on: November 7, 2010 9:52 pm
Posted by Josh Katzowitz

The concussion suffered by Colts WR Austin Collie was a better diagnosis than one could have expected. Especially if you watched Collie’s crash with Eagles DBs Kurt Coleman and Quintin Mikell and saw him fall to the turf and not move.

But that doesn’t mean the injury didn’t scare the daylights out of his teammates and coaches. Because it did.

 "I won't go into all the details about it, but he took a pretty good hit," coach Jim Caldwell told reporters after the Colts lost 26-24 to the Eagles. "He was out, unconscious for a period of time."

Said QB Peyton Manning: "Coach Caldwell told us early it was a concussion and you don't like to hear that. It's better than what everybody fears at that point."

For the record, Caldwell said he thought the officials made the proper call, throwing the penalty flag for a helmet-to-helmet hit. Now, we wait for Collie to return to health and for the potential fines and suspensions to be doled out.

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 30, 2012 1:10 pm

Collie's hit scared colleagues

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: December 13, 2011 4:05 pm

Collie's hit scared colleagues

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Since: Mar 6, 2009
Posted on: November 8, 2010 4:01 pm

Collie's hit scared colleagues

If any thing That hit was peytons mannings fault. He threaded the needle in between 3 defenders to hit collie in the chest. Collie didnt have time to protech himself. It was a great pass dont get me wrong. But when there are three defenders most quarterbacks wont even make that throw. Payton can make that throw an did. But fines should not be given out. The funny thing is before the nfl changed the rules we all talked about  big hits now we talk about the big hits even more. BIG HITS are not going anywhere.

Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: November 8, 2010 1:16 pm

Collie's hit scared colleagues

Look, I'm a Colts fan and I'm certainly sorry to see Collie get hurt.  But there was nothing malicious or dirty about that hit.

The problem is, they *don't* decide when it's vicious.  The refs have been encouraged to basically flag anything that is helmet-to-helmet at this point.  Then the league will review whether or not to fine/suspend.

What makes it wonky is that the league has been very adamant about not determining intent.  That is to say, whether the defender MEANT to cause a helmet-to-helmet collision is something that the refs (and even the league officials reviewing the hit later) won't take into account.

To me, that's kind of silly.  I get that on the field they want to take subjectivity out of it.  But to me, this is like the hit on Cribbs a couple weeks back, where the receiver was turning and ducking while the defender came in full-speed and couldn't really alter the direction of impact.  I'm a Colts fan, and I get that the refs (under current instructions) had to flag it... but no matter how many times they replayed it, that was not a dirty hit.  Penalty?  I guess so.  Dirty?  No.  He wasn't trying to cause an injury... or even a fumble really from the looks of it.  He was just trying to tackle, and the bodies moved.  I understand that subjectivity on the field could cause too much grey area, but I think intent should be judged when deciding fines or suspensions.  I don't think Coleman should be penalized off the field for what happened there.  Knowing the league office, he probably will... but he shouldn't be.

Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: November 8, 2010 12:05 pm

Collie's hit scared colleagues

I am all for the penalty for helmet to helmet hits when warranted. The league says not to hit so hard, don't touch my quarterback, and don't be so rough. The rule says if its a vicious hit or a defenseless receiver. 1. How/when do you decide it is vicious. Every player out there is there to win and stop you, this is not flag football or two hand touch. 2. If they are going to flag you because the receiver was a defenseless player, then part of that blame should be on the offense. Every team has plays for the receiver to go over the center of the field, catch a ball and then what - not get hit. As a receiver, you have to know that every play going over the center is suspect of this type of hit. If you watched the rest of that series, the Eagles were just not the same. They sat back and the Colts went right down the remainder of the field, because the Eagles seemed afraid to hit.  

Since: Oct 20, 2008
Posted on: November 8, 2010 10:50 am

Collie's hit scared colleagues

They were out of timeouts.  They could not challenge anymore in this half.

Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: November 8, 2010 10:04 am

Collie's hit scared colleagues

Someone please tekk me why Philly didn't challenge the incoomplete pass? It would have been overturned, Philly would have the ball and they would have had to pick up the flag.

Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: November 8, 2010 9:32 am

Collie's hit scared colleagues

Weak ass call.  He took three steps after cathing ball, and only reason it has helemet to helemt was because Quinten Mikell hit Collie before Coleman.  These calls are crap, I want guys to start hitting guys in the thighs, and start breaking legs, then the helmet to thigh contact will become illegal.  Leave the helemets in the locker room if they are such a problem, give them rubber skull caps to help cushion blow and falls.

Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: November 8, 2010 8:42 am
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